tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post1778593072743124360..comments2024-03-25T20:55:48.523+00:00Comments on Didcot Wargames Club: Codex Deathwatch Reveals- Initial ThoughtsMike (Didcot Wargames Club)http://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-12984416254862612822018-05-06T11:07:46.033+01:002018-05-06T11:07:46.033+01:00By the looks of the reviews so far, Veterans are 1...By the looks of the reviews so far, Veterans are 17 pts and Intercessors are 19 pts each. Seems like they are really pushing Primaris for Deathwatch. Only 2 pts for an extra wound, longer range gun and -1 AP. Not really much competition. Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-13365203914699700622018-05-05T10:17:21.194+01:002018-05-05T10:17:21.194+01:00Over on War of Sigmar, Bob said the Veterans are t...Over on War of Sigmar, Bob said the Veterans are two points cheaper, and the Intercessors are the same as vanilla SM: https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2919#comment-3886830674<br /><br />Sounds like a good start!WestRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10221228665636182019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-26105350663860056912018-05-04T23:31:14.419+01:002018-05-04T23:31:14.419+01:00Yeah, my fear is the Primaris Marines simply get m...Yeah, my fear is the Primaris Marines simply get more expensive thanks to special issue ammunition. If that is the case, the Deathwatch will still struggle to get bodies on the table. <br /><br />I think the Aggressor will be useful in the Primaris Kill Team. The ability to advance and still fire to full effect will help the mobility of the Primaris Marines a fair bit. Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-31276732233901120922018-05-04T23:28:54.775+01:002018-05-04T23:28:54.775+01:00Yeah, I'd hate to have to field mostly Primari...Yeah, I'd hate to have to field mostly Primaris to be competitive with the Deathwatch. <br />I think Kill Teams will still be useful thanks to the variety of weapons options available, and the transport options. I would like to see Bikers get a reasonable points reduction to make them worth fielding. <br /><br />I think the new Beta rules on reserves will help them a little, as the lack of cheap screening units was a big issue for my Deathwatch. Also, some form of Auspex scan would be very powerful thanks to the special issue ammunition. Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-57439306292508143032018-05-04T20:31:59.820+01:002018-05-04T20:31:59.820+01:00I've been looking forward to seeing your take ...I've been looking forward to seeing your take on these previews. I'm really excited about the possibilities for my own DeathWatch.<br /><br />I'm planning on just using my pre-existing DW at first, but will probably add in a couple of Primaris Kill Teams eventually. Specifically, I'm thinking one with 5 Intercessors, 4 Hellblasters, and an Inceptor so they can get out of trouble without losing firepower if they get Charged. Maybe one with Stalker Bolt Rifles and an Aggressor, but that feels kind of expensive for what it gains. Probably one with an Aggressor and a bunch of Auto Bolt Rifles, and maybe a couple of Assault Plasma Incinerators and a Reiver, too.<br /><br />I'm also kind of assuming that they're going to get equivalents of most of the "generic" SM Stratagems, like Only in Death, Honour the Chapter, and Auspex Scan.<br /><br />It's really going to come down to the pricing, tho. As a worst case scenario, if the DW Primaris get bumped up in points for gaining Special Issue Ammo, they could end up in more or less the same spot as now. WestRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10221228665636182019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-21049765465447444782018-05-04T14:46:02.607+01:002018-05-04T14:46:02.607+01:00I like the strategums, but the primaris are of lit...I like the strategums, but the primaris are of little concern to me. I know why they are adding them, but I've painted a good amount of infantry that, as I finished it just as 8th dropped, I have barely used... I don't particularly want to jump on the primaris bandwagon and paint more models for my army. I want the models I've already painted to be able to function. I don't need top tier, I just want to feel like I can put up a fight... take the game to turn 3 maybe :P And I want to do that without NEEDING primaris. But I shall wait till I have my codex in hand and see how it all gels together. so far there are some promising signs, but it the big thing of the book is being able to do deathwatch btut with primaris instead, that isn't going to cut the mustard for me...Gingehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04155099423475435032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-957970024704302172018-05-04T10:07:47.860+01:002018-05-04T10:07:47.860+01:00Cheers Toonboy!
Yes, you are right about the Temp...Cheers Toonboy! <br />Yes, you are right about the Tempest shells only being used on vehicles, I missed that. <br /><br />I can't keep up with my posts either! I need to get my White Scars tournament review written up. It was a decent list, but don't think it was as good as the first iteration. As you say, it didn't feel too powerful on the tabletop. Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-29787467065125330042018-05-04T10:04:31.953+01:002018-05-04T10:04:31.953+01:00while I only have a squad and a blackstar’s worth ...while I only have a squad and a blackstar’s worth of deathwatch I am really liking what I see from the way GW are bringing them in to the 8th edition. It looks like a very clever way of getting a very unique marine army.<br /><br />Unsurprisingly primaris will be taking a centre stage in this codex and if you want bodies on the ground they will be the default option with “normal” marines being used in a support capacity for specialist weapons (similar to other marine codex’s)<br /><br />A few units need a bit o a tweak and I think looking at the costs in the other marine codex’s I would expect them to be on par with that.<br /><br />I look forward to seeing how you update your army. <br /><br />Final note the Tempest shells only work against vehicles. Very useful in an army that as you have mentioned in your previous reports has a lack of anti tank options<br /><br />I can’t keep up with all your posts.<br /><br />Great report yesterday, I will try and comment on it later.<br /><br />I am also waiting to hear your feedback on your white scars army. I played a very similar list the other day and I it didn’t perform well at all. It seemed to lack any hard hitting units to deal with big stuff like a lord of change.<br /><br />toonboy78https://www.blogger.com/profile/06032744373751739974noreply@blogger.com