tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post8309161296416349899..comments2024-03-25T20:55:48.523+00:00Comments on Didcot Wargames Club: Angels of Death Codex Review- Part 6: Raven Guard FormationsMike (Didcot Wargames Club)http://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-80534626005997538262016-09-20T18:44:02.017+01:002016-09-20T18:44:02.017+01:00There are no rules in the formations that prevent ...There are no rules in the formations that prevent other chapters from using them as far as I am aware. The Pinion Battle Demi-Company and Shadow Force even allows special characters from other chapters to be taken in place of the Captain in each formation. Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-42076762326340261332016-09-20T18:27:58.723+01:002016-09-20T18:27:58.723+01:00So just so I am clear, even though these were inte...So just so I am clear, even though these were intended for ravengaurd there is no rule preventing them from being used with black templar chapter tactics? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12946552574872895659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-80370445211831149332016-05-14T17:39:09.956+01:002016-05-14T17:39:09.956+01:00The re-rolls on the marked target and auto-arrival...The re-rolls on the marked target and auto-arrival Turn 2 are still pretty nice.WestRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12877289116827690457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-45035811846442374932016-05-13T23:24:18.569+01:002016-05-13T23:24:18.569+01:00There have been a few others that included ObSec f...There have been a few others that included ObSec for a few of the Units, but yeah, giving it to the entire Demi-Company was way over the top.WestRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12877289116827690457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-61000441090269552542016-05-13T09:25:05.918+01:002016-05-13T09:25:05.918+01:00I think they made a mistake making the Gladius obj...I think they made a mistake making the Gladius objective secured. No other formation released has been objective secured and it makes the Gladius far more powerful as a result, so less of the other formations are being used. <br /><br />You should do your own write up, would be interesting to see another perspective on the formations and rules (plus it should bring in more traffic to your blog!). Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-25164385259614410372016-05-13T09:23:08.630+01:002016-05-13T09:23:08.630+01:00Unfortunately, I don't own Death from the Skie...Unfortunately, I don't own Death from the Skies and wasn't planning on picking it up. £35 seems a bit pricey for an update to the flyer rules. Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-65945912392495254312016-05-13T09:19:57.568+01:002016-05-13T09:19:57.568+01:00The Raptor Wing is a bit obsolete with Death from ...The Raptor Wing is a bit obsolete with Death from Skies. Now, you can take an independent formation of 2 stormtalons without Land Speeders, and if the opponent hasn't any flier you win a +2 to reserve rolls. In an army that roll for reserves from turn 1, that is huge. <br />The only concern I have with the Talon Strike Force is the lack of librarians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-19291362278682002032016-05-12T19:39:45.818+01:002016-05-12T19:39:45.818+01:00I really like the Talon Strike Force, but I always...I really like the Talon Strike Force, but I always struggle with the choice of what to take as my Core. The Pinion is cool, but so hard to compare with the massed ObSec of a regular Demi-Company.<br /><br />The Shadowstrike Kill Team is definitely the big winner of the Auxiliaries, tho the Raptor Wing is close behind. Note that the Speeder from the Raptor Wing can also go Flat Out after marking a target, letting it jump behind LoS-blocking Terrain or something to keep it safe for future Turns.<br /><br />I really like the Bladewing Assault Brotherhood, if only for fluffy/coolness reasons. <br /><br />The Skyhammer Annihilation Force isn't actually part of the Talon Strike Force. They left it the same as it was in Kauyon, when the SAF was still a limited availability thing.<br /><br />The Other Skyhammer, as with the Pinion Demi-Company, feels like it just falls short. If the Tac Squads also got Obsec while in range of the target point or something, I'd be much more of a fan. Note that, in a Talon Strike Force, even if you have no other Pods, you can roll for the third one on Turn 1 anyhow. That said, I kind of like the idea of keeping a more accurate Pod in Reserves to drop in on an Objective later on, after you've had a little more time to clear out stuff that might have been screening it.<br /><br />Also, regular Scout Squads can't take Locator Beacons, just Teleport Homers. Locator Beacons are only on a few Vehicles and Scout Bikers.<br /><br />The Shadow Force is pretty much garbage as far as any sort of competitive use is concerned. I do sort of like it as an option for including SM along with IG or something in a fluffier list, emphasizing the difference between the regular dudes and the Marines.<br /><br />The Ravenhawk Assault Group is, yeah, kind of meh. The Deep Strike ability could be nice because even tho they can't Charge out of it, the dudes can still Disembark normally, which means they don't have to run the risk of being in a Zooming Flyer that gets shot down.<br /><br />I need to do a full write-up on this one myself, just to make myself really think through it all, since I want to use it for an Alpha Legion Counts-As Army.WestRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12877289116827690457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-77512007022894653752016-05-12T14:12:06.201+01:002016-05-12T14:12:06.201+01:00The ultimate of cheeses. I have only run it once, ...The ultimate of cheeses. I have only run it once, but my Devastators had missile launchers and heavy bolters and the assault squads were 5 man strong, so mild cheddar at most. Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-41620004888373290062016-05-12T13:41:31.808+01:002016-05-12T13:41:31.808+01:00There are some good formations here, a couple I qu...There are some good formations here, a couple I quite like, namely the shadow force and bladewing. <br /><br />It's one of my hopes that when the BA's get their Gladius style detachment that there will be a few bladewing type formations, with DC and Sanguine Guard units as well as normal assault and vanguard units. After all, Blood Angels do like there assaults.<br /><br />As for the skyhammer, well that's just cheese, very smelly cheese at that.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07412304888734273336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-23082647839786903582016-05-12T13:05:00.576+01:002016-05-12T13:05:00.576+01:00Thanks for the review! I'm a great fan of the ...Thanks for the review! I'm a great fan of the Raptor Wing, too, and also the Ravenhawk AG, but more for fluff reasons. <br /><br />As for the Skyhammer AF - that thing is an abomination that has to die imo. I've tried it once, and it was just silly. All those special rules make it very hard to counter and not a lot of fun for your opponent. It actually ended up as a running gag that whenever I declared something the Skyhammer formation could do everyone in the room would join in with me playfully declaring in a condescending voice: 'Because - SKYHAMMER, dawg!' <br /><br />In tournament play, I guess it's alright, whatever. Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08199583732490727488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-70497284687685108332016-05-12T11:14:15.999+01:002016-05-12T11:14:15.999+01:00Thanks Nick! I hadn't realised I had misread i...Thanks Nick! I hadn't realised I had misread it. That makes them a lot more effective in that case! I'll make the changes above. Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-63599262144704535122016-05-12T11:10:56.932+01:002016-05-12T11:10:56.932+01:00A nice review mate - though you might want to re-r...A nice review mate - though you might want to re-read the Pinion demi-company rules. The scout units doing the spotting only have to be within 9" of the unit they are spotting for, not the enemy unit! This means they don't have to get close, and can quite easily spot for a long ranged devastator unit - 4 ignores cover lascannons perhaps?Triple Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18002702481127525157noreply@blogger.com