tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post4686236103635975836..comments2024-03-25T20:55:48.523+00:00Comments on Didcot Wargames Club: Battle Report 148- Deathwatch vs AeldariMike (Didcot Wargames Club)http://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-36683134125472837932018-05-21T08:42:13.443+01:002018-05-21T08:42:13.443+01:00Do you think assassins would make good allies? Do you think assassins would make good allies? Rob Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09135487799075859919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-18405850884657456472018-05-20T21:32:30.867+01:002018-05-20T21:32:30.867+01:00I actually somehow managed to leave a bunch of my ...I actually somehow managed to leave a bunch of my Deathwatch army at home when I moved. Need to pick up the Dreadnought, more Bikers and Rhino when I go home. <br /><br />Don't worry, after putting articles on Frontline Gaming and having them posted on BoLS, I'm used to ignoring them by now!Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-2805418430085729432018-05-20T21:31:06.958+01:002018-05-20T21:31:06.958+01:00Cheers Padman! Hopefully the next Deathwatch game ...Cheers Padman! Hopefully the next Deathwatch game will be more exciting. Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-68856926813596284922018-05-20T21:30:46.373+01:002018-05-20T21:30:46.373+01:00I think I probably just forgot about them for the ...I think I probably just forgot about them for the most part. With the -1 to hit on most of the flyers and many vehicles, I didn't want to risk the command points on the chance I would miss. <br /><br />I think some psychic defence for Smite would be useful, especially if I am not going for a Guard screen in the army. Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-74789703982785690332018-05-20T21:29:17.012+01:002018-05-20T21:29:17.012+01:00Good to know for the future. I'll have him nex...Good to know for the future. I'll have him next time!Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-33230315204617351732018-05-20T21:28:50.864+01:002018-05-20T21:28:50.864+01:00Haha! Cheers WestRider! Yeah, kind of to be expect...Haha! Cheers WestRider! Yeah, kind of to be expected at times. Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-37710212605536817442018-05-20T12:48:17.029+01:002018-05-20T12:48:17.029+01:00Aye dice gods and rock/paper/scissors nature of th...Aye dice gods and rock/paper/scissors nature of the game can lead to that. I'd also suggest maybe another bike squad or 2 (maybe instead of the blackstar if you're not having joy with it?) To give you more mobility and not a solo 1 that'll get picked off? I think they're awesome especially since their price drop :)<br /><br />O and screw the anonymous person above, seriously throwing those insults was petty and pathetic. Comment and critic by all means but there's no need for those kind of insults.Rob Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09135487799075859919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-6031248179926164742018-05-19T21:23:03.611+01:002018-05-19T21:23:03.611+01:00Shame about the game. Sometimes it just happens th...Shame about the game. Sometimes it just happens that you come up against an army you can't beat. Especially when the dice gods abandon you. <br />Great write up as usual.Padmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05807564950701276100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-82528998181547928462018-05-19T02:47:04.819+01:002018-05-19T02:47:04.819+01:00You know you've made the big leagues when you ...You know you've made the big leagues when you start getting anon hate comments ;)WestRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10221228665636182019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-18596293716585938262018-05-18T23:33:43.099+01:002018-05-18T23:33:43.099+01:00Yeah, it specifically says that the Shadowfield sa...Yeah, it specifically says that the Shadowfield save cannot be re-rolled for any reason.WestRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10221228665636182019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-49129361553518560482018-05-18T23:32:57.127+01:002018-05-18T23:32:57.127+01:00Any particular reason you didn't use Tempest S...Any particular reason you didn't use Tempest Shells or Flakk Missiles at any point? Seems like those could have helped, especially when trying to plink the last Wound or two off of some of the Vehicles. A couple of (possibly Infernus) Heavy Bolters to give opportunities for Hellfire Shells could help pitch in there, too.<br /><br />Also on that front, a Jump Pack Librarian with Psychic Scourge seems like a handy option. Lots of Vehicles are down in the Ld7 range, which gives very good odds on adding in at least one Mortal Wound. A fair number of Support Characters have only moderate Ld as well, and the power doesn't follow the usual targeting restrictions.WestRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10221228665636182019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-16268450879506221312018-05-18T18:43:53.480+01:002018-05-18T18:43:53.480+01:00No, of course I am not getting rid of my army afte...No, of course I am not getting rid of my army after one game. I have many armies and from time to time they get shelved to focus on playing other lists to keep some variety in my game. <br /><br />I have played the Deathwatch a lot in 8th edition and was merely commenting on some of their flaws that have persisted in the codex. Sorry you found the analysis bad, but there is not need to go for personal insults, especially under the cloud on anonymity. I shelved them after many games and tournaments at the start of 8th due to their poor showing and moved to other armies in my collection. I will certainly give the Deathwatch a fair shake (you are welcome to follow the future battle reports to see how the get on). <br /><br />I am planning to add some Primaris Marines to the force, but simply echoing the sentiment of many other Deathwatch players that don't want to see the time, money and effort spent painting their Deathwatch Veterans to be wasted if they want the army to stay competitive. <br /><br />I think Deathwatch are still going to struggle against vehicles in this edition. There is not much in the codex that leaves me to believe otherwise. This game was a particularly bad example of the codex, but there is still some good in it.Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-38721196220421698842018-05-18T18:05:42.774+01:002018-05-18T18:05:42.774+01:00Your sentiments based on one game are depressing. ...Your sentiments based on one game are depressing. Good write up, but bad analysis. You’re obviously not the brightest player either if your talking about shelving the army completely after ONE game. Lol And lamenting the idea of replacing every unit with Primaris. Why not just add a squad or two of Primaris as support? Maybe some hellblasters to help with vehicles? Who the hell is throwing their entire army away and replacing them all with Primaris? Are you nuts? Thanks but no thanks on your conclusions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-48395253604903040502018-05-18T16:59:36.051+01:002018-05-18T16:59:36.051+01:00He did use a CP re-roll in his first turn. Does it...He did use a CP re-roll in his first turn. Does it specify you cannot re-roll it? Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-48040144439331844762018-05-18T16:56:45.462+01:002018-05-18T16:56:45.462+01:00Just a heads up Doug. You can't re-roll a shad...Just a heads up Doug. You can't re-roll a shadowfield save, even with a command point. Apologies if this didn't happen, it reads as though you did in turn 1.Ed OMalleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15279877134200895040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-48025223182135775552018-05-18T10:29:32.137+01:002018-05-18T10:29:32.137+01:00Yeah, I think Deathwatch with IG allies is the way...Yeah, I think Deathwatch with IG allies is the way to go for competitive play. I do prefer to run single faction armies in most of my games, it just suits me better. <br /><br />I'll just need to update the bases on my Guard to match the Deathwatch and White Scars, so that'll be a big project to do! Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-42313656758058777842018-05-18T10:28:14.889+01:002018-05-18T10:28:14.889+01:00Cheers Doug, we'll definitely get a rematch in...Cheers Doug, we'll definitely get a rematch in the coming weeks to test our skills once more! Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-51169691493356391952018-05-18T09:47:55.030+01:002018-05-18T09:47:55.030+01:00Why not making an imperium army with your DW and G...Why not making an imperium army with your DW and Guard? I think it’s clear at this point in 8th ed that, unless lists are balanced at the list writing stage, it’s hard for elite armies to compete in a TAC fashion. I think your DW with a little investment in Primaris and mixed with your Guard could do well enough, and it would be a better solution than shelving the army. Just my 2c :)abphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18218797897172005326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668255476316917252.post-69917022366376505832018-05-18T09:46:19.700+01:002018-05-18T09:46:19.700+01:00Great writeup as always!
I think my opinion on de...Great writeup as always!<br /><br />I think my opinion on deathwatch is largely unchanged - they are a fantastic elite force for an imperium army, but aren't such a balanced, stand-alone codex. Deepstriking storm bolters with special issue ammo could easily replace command squad plasma drops while being backed up by more anti-tank. (Whether thats thunder hammer captains, bikes, hellblasters or tank commanders etc doesn't matter)<br /><br />I totally felt like 'that-guy' during deployment however! I promise to bring fewer vehicles and a more balanced list next time. <br /><br />I will also freely admit to being totally outplayed on the mission front. I think the score line said it all reallyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17963380963073946469noreply@blogger.com